AP mid ranked- Who counters who?

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Ralfh4

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04-12-2011

Brand > Annie - Tibbers + Pyroclasm = Dead Annie
Brand >LeBlanc- Clone + Pyroclasm = Dead LeBlanc
Kass > Morgana - Early game only. Too much harass even for Morgana
Morgana > Brand - Shield = Useless Brand
Morgana > LeBlanc - Shield = Useless harass
Heimer > All AP mids - Win lane, Lose Teamfights
Morgana > Zilean - Shield + Bomb = no damage
Brand > Malzahar - Voidling + Pyroclasm = Dead Malz
Annie = Anivia (Purely based on skill really)
Swain > Kass - Swain is really good vs melee champs
Swain > Gragas - Same as above
Morgana > Kennen - Shield = no stuns for Kennen
Cass > Brand - Movespeed buff makes dodging Brand's skillshots easy
All AP > Veigar - Only early game.Late game, he owns all except for 1 champ
Ryze > Veigar - Ryze builds little AP so Veigar ult deals less damage


There are much more....


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SpaceCows

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04-12-2011

Lane fiddle is just aweful


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Ralfh4

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04-12-2011

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Lane fiddle is just aweful
He was good for a time.... Then they nerfed practically every single skill of his....


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SpaceCows

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04-12-2011

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Brand > Annie - Tibbers + Pyroclasm = Dead Annie
Brand >LeBlanc- Clone + Pyroclasm = Dead LeBlanc
Kass > Morgana - Early game only. Too much harass even for Morgana
Morgana > Brand - Shield = Useless Brand
Morgana > LeBlanc - Shield = Useless harass
Heimer > All AP mids - Win lane, Lose Teamfights
Morgana > Zilean - Shield + Bomb = no damage
Brand > Malzahar - Voidling + Pyroclasm = Dead Malz
Annie = Anivia (Purely based on skill really)
Swain > Kass - Swain is really good vs melee champs
Swain > Gragas - Same as above
Morgana > Kennen - Shield = no stuns for Kennen
Cass > Brand - Movespeed buff makes dodging Brand's skillshots easy
All AP > Veigar - Only early game.Late game, he owns all except for 1 champ
Ryze > Veigar - Ryze builds little AP so Veigar ult deals less damage


There are much more....
Karthus beats heimer he outranges turrets then comes the super harras.


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Dacorla

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04-12-2011

morgana counters all, none counters morgana.

either pick morgana or ban her, else don't go mid.


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R3f1exez

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04-12-2011

There are very few hard counters at mid between AP champions right now.

In general most have high burst and are squishy which means in a fight it mostly comes down to who lands attacks best and/or gets CC off first. Champions with AOE or easy farming skills slightly counter those with mostly single target damage as they can shove lane and roam, but most have an AOE clear which destroys minions once slightly leveled/AP items.

Mostly comes down to skill of individual players, Morg and Kass have good counters and Akali still has good burst and her shroud gives good harrass/escape as always.

tl;dr - Skill > Counters for mid.


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bafodalho

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04-12-2011

has morgana, i still have to be countered in mid


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Wild Nurph

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04-12-2011

This is all based on what i use! These champs may not be the best, but the way i play these champions they counter very well
Mid is the most skill based lane and is about having a playstyle to counter the enemy champion as much as having the right champ for it.

Morgana - I use vladimir for her but xerath is awesome aswell
Kassadin - also vlad on my part
Karthus - Anivia
Anivia - Le'blanc
Brand - Kassadin
Cassio - Anivia
Swain - Kennen
Kennen - Gragas
Annie - Everyone!
Malz - Anivia
Gragas - Xerath
Veigar - Everyone with a bit of early damage (i use cassio)
AP sion - Anivia
Xerath - he's a ***** u can't counter him
Heimerdinger - Any1 with a somewhat good range


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Wild Nurph

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04-12-2011

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Swain > Gragas - Same as above
Gragas never gets close unless he is sure for the kill and farms with barrel
If swain tries to lock gragas any good gragas will use the opportunity to bodyslam swain because he knows he will dodge the locky and swain won't be able to stop him without the lock


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MLite

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04-12-2011

Leona Counters Oriana
I think its more skill, but counter picking champions do put it in your favor quite a lot something, like Kassadin owns most AP mid