New Masteries , regarding AD Carry's

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Kiriyama

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16-11-2011

so with this new masteries we are able to have 10% armor penetration plus 6 armor penetration .

The question is do the armor penetration runes still make sense ?


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EugeniaPhua

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16-11-2011

Wondering the same question.


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DeeOne

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16-11-2011

same here....


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Dacorla

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16-11-2011

full crit dmg runes.


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Leiywen

Member

16-11-2011

arm pen runes will make sense even for late game provided no one stacks like 200+ armor


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nerd09

Senior Member

16-11-2011

lets say they have about 30 armor
30-6 = 24
24 - 2.4(10%) = 21.6
21.6 - 21.something( 2 arp quints ) = 0

so basically you can get true damage now

now i dont know where the 10% gets calculated in, so its just speculation


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Sandcoat

Senior Member

16-11-2011

Percentage reduction is calculated after flat reduction iirc, so it's always useful to have flat Arpen marks.


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EmperorOfDemise

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16-11-2011

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Originally Posted by Cilamoon View Post
Percentage reduction is calculated after flat reduction iirc, so it's always useful to have flat Arpen marks.
Do mind that if it was calclated in front of flat reduction it would be more powerful.

100 armor - 10% = 90
90 - 6 = 84

100 armor - 6 = 94
94 - 10% = 84,6

Difference is bigger with bigger numbers.

Anyway, the runes basically get "nerfed" 10% if you take the mastery, but 10% lesser power on them isn't that bad. For marks, instead of 15 armor pen it gives about 13,5 (providing no other armor pen etc). Still better than about 9 damage imo.

Quints I do take flat damage, since it hits a lot harder lvl 1 and only very very little worse at lvl 18 with items.


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Isashu

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16-11-2011

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Originally Posted by Dacorla View Post
full crit dmg runes.
Crit damage runes always sucked and will suck forever.


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Severing

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16-11-2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilamoon View Post
Percentage reduction is calculated after flat reduction iirc, so it's always useful to have flat Arpen marks.
The introduction of easy % armor pen, does make flat armor pen fall off (compared to crit chance and attack speed) earlier in the game. And overall makes ranged AD champions more powerful mid game (before last whisper which usually isnt bought till 30 minutes+)


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