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Dear Riot, the restriction reason?

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camokha

Junior Member

01-14-2015

Hello everyone, I am aware that you are working up to promote the game qualitiy by trying to eliminate the negative behaviours, but as you are on this path do you really make it is fair and just? I mean is there a way that I can get to know why I get restricted by showing me the specific game chat? I am asking not beacause I am being mad or upset, but because so that I can learn what I did bad specifically and will not do it again. Because just a couple days ago I completed 75 games and I tried to be really positive and I strongly believe I did not flame or insult any one, yet I get chat restricted. Even if when I say one negative thing, just such as "you are doing bad mate lets focus together" I try to be constructive. And I believe I say a lot more positive things. And please, do not let troll reporters to depromote the qualitiy of this game, such as, people report people for no reason or just because they are mad.
I apologize if I give any of you hard time becasue of my bad English
Sincerely See you on the fields of justice!


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KiwiGeneral

Senior Member

01-14-2015

1. There's an edit button at the end of your post, you can use it to edit your post, instead of opening a new thread.
2. You keep getting restricted until you have improved. Telling others they are bad isn't not okay. Being constructive is not blaming others for something or just outright tell them they are bad.
3. Reports are already checked before they land in the cr system. False reports have no impact.


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camokha

Junior Member

01-14-2015

Thanks for the replay and heads up, yet, I am pretty much confused about the confirmations or controlling of reports before CR is landed since many people also argue that the system is automated. Can you prove me that Riot checks the reports before they give us CR?


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GangrelCat

Senior Member

01-15-2015

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camokha:
Thanks for the replay and heads up, yet, I am pretty much confused about the confirmations or controlling of reports before CR is landed since many people also argue that the system is automated. Can you prove me that Riot checks the reports before they give us CR?


All we could give you are statements from the creators of the systems.

The idea is that every player has a hidden value to their reports. That value can drop depending upon if they abuse their reports by reporting people who have done nothing wrong or if they themselves have been punished recently, amongst other things. This is just one way that makes it much more difficult to abuse the report system.

The CR/RR system is largely an automated system, it has to be since it would cost way to much manpower and time to do it manually, but many of the cases are double checked by Riot employees to insure the accuracy of the system.
May I ask if the new restriction stack was smaller than the first one? The idea is that people show that they have improved but also that it's something that stays, therefore many get a new, often smaller, stack of restrictions to see if their improved behaviour carries through. After each stack all those games are checked again, reported or not, to see if there was indeed improvement.

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Candle Light

Senior Member

01-15-2015

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camokha:
Thanks for the replay and heads up, yet, I am pretty much confused about the confirmations or controlling of reports before CR is landed since many people also argue that the system is automated. Can you prove me that Riot checks the reports before they give us CR?


The official disclosure of how system works would lead to abuse. So it's hard to judge how much truth there is about the system even within official Riot statements and CR+RR FAQ and such.

But from my conversations with Riot Support and Riot Behavior Specialists - my personal conclusion is that system is semi-automatic. First punishments you get - are checked manually by Riot empoloyees, by "first" I mean not first ever, but ones you recieve after a period of not being punished.
Recurring punishemnts - when you get one CR(+RR) right after you finished one you had - is assigned to you by the automated system which takes into account only the amount of reports you got in proportion to the number of games you played.

There is some confirmation to this in these threads:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2048187
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2022724&page=3


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Im a Clown

Junior Member

01-15-2015

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Recurring punishemnts - when you get one CR(+RR) right after you finished one you had - is assigned to you by the automated system which takes into account only the amount of reports you got in proportion to the number of games you played.

And this part is way too ****ed up.
I got reported for verbal abuse while I ddin't say anything in chat, just because the team thinks it's my fault we lose. I end up with a second 75 games chat restriction and a 35 games ranked restriction..
Sent a ticket for their reasons tho.


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camokha

Junior Member

01-15-2015

Yes, I understand how the system is actually hoped to work, but the semi automated progress is getting negative feedbacks and will keep getting, I believe. I am not saying this just because I got punished several time, but what I am saying is I can even report someone without any reason at all, then? Last time I got punished, I also got ranked games suspenion.
In short, it is encouring when people report me due to their own will even without no reason. Even though I try to be ,and honestly I am way and a lot more positive then I get mad, I eventually will get punished due to work mechanic of the automatic system.
I am happy if I could be any kind of help with my feedback and good luck everyone who is working on this reward and punihsmen system.


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KiwiGeneral

Senior Member

01-15-2015

If you got restricted, reports don't matter anymore.


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JagPrime

Member

01-15-2015

Any system that is used by millions of users will be abused.


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Candle Light

Senior Member

01-15-2015

Addressing: Im a Clown and camokha

Yes, the system is not perfect, not even close. It sucks. Some deny it, some don't, but everyone realizes it, at least to some extent.

But for fuсk's sake, stop bitсhing about it! Everyone knows already. Riot knows too. They realize their CR+RR system is shіt with a capital S, they are working on a new system which will be basically old improved Tribunal.

They will turn it on as soon as possible. There is nothing left to discuss.
The times of CR+RR semi-automated system are just dark times that you need to survive through. Nothing else you can do. Bitсhing won't change anything, it won't speed up coming of the new Tribunal or any fixes Riot will implement.

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KiwiGeneral:
If you got restricted, reports don't matter anymore.


Where did you get this information?
Riot Support along with CR+RR FAQ tell us that reports matter, players who are restricted and flame should still be reported, etc.

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Ranked restricted players will be chat restricted in other queues, and they can and should still be reported if they continue to display negative behaviors while playing through their restrictions.


Quoted from:
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/203259670-Ranked-Restrictions


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