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Rammus and Fiddle nerfed because of Yasou?

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Esthlos

Senior Member

12-13-2013

Hi!

Was thinking about how to counter Yasou... well, the obvious answer is CC.
But not just any CC: his wall stops projectile CC like Taric's E, Annie's Q or Morgana's Q.

We need instant CC with no projectile, like... Fiddlesticks' fear or Rammus' taunt.

Is it possible that this nerf to champions that already are either extremely dependent on that CC (Rammus) or straight borderline UP (Fiddlesticks) is just a marketing strategy to make Yasou appear better than he really is by nerfing his counters, and thus get more people to buy him immediately?

I can see no other explanation. Not even the forum's QQ... people are whining about Riven a lot more, and she's not been nerfed at all.


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shaunika

Senior Member

12-13-2013

"straight borderline UP"= 8th highest winrate out of 116 champions


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Psyman2

Senior Member

12-13-2013

Conspiracy crafting at its best


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Ryder Kaiser

Senior Member

12-13-2013

Quote:
Esthlos:
Hi!

Was thinking about how to counter Yasou... well, the obvious answer is CC.
But not just any CC: his wall stops projectile CC like Taric's E, Annie's Q or Morgana's Q.

We need instant CC with no projectile, like... Fiddlesticks' fear or Rammus' taunt.

Is it possible that this nerf to champions that already are either extremely dependent on that CC (Rammus) or straight borderline UP (Fiddlesticks) is just a marketing strategy to make Yasou appear better than he really is by nerfing his counters, and thus get more people to buy him immediately?

I can see no other explanation. Not even the forum's QQ... people are whining about Riven a lot more, and she's not been nerfed at all.


yes because those 2 champs are the only ones who have instant cc and have lower cd than his wall... man really?


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Esthlos

Senior Member

12-13-2013

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LycanthropeHTZ:
yes because those 2 champs are the only ones who have instant cc and have lower cd than his wall... man really?

Let's see who else has one and is not countered by Yasou's extreme mobility... Ryze, and maybe Maokai.
Both extremely predictable.

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shaunika:
"straight borderline UP"= 8th highest winrate out of 116 champions

>Squishy
>No mobility
>No wave clear
>Damage can only be actually dealt by rooting himself, either while channelling or by Zhonya to avoid being simply nuked out.
>Vulnerable to hard CC, slows, burst, Healing Reduction, Tenacity, high-mobility enemies, vision, even sneezes.

Also, according to Lolking (all regions, this month) he is not one of the champions within the top 15 winrates.

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=normal


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The7thSeal

Senior Member

12-13-2013

The reason that Spiked Taunt and a Terrify were nerfed is because they have been consistently aggravating the LoL community.
There was even a thread titled, 'What to do when Rammus taunts you?', most of which were along the lines of 'set up a smurf and get to diamond.'
They're both abilities that would make the chance of escape next to zero.


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Esthlos

Senior Member

12-13-2013

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The7thSeal:
The reason that Spiked Taunt and a Terrify were nerfed is because they have been consistently aggravating the LoL community.
There was even a thread titled, 'What to do when Rammus taunts you?', most of which were along the lines of 'set up a smurf and get to diamond.'
They're both abilities that would make the chance of escape next to zero.

Pretty much any skill you don't counter is deadly... anybody could buy Mercury Threads, even ADCs, without losing much.
Or just build a QSS and completely cancel the CC while also mitigating their magic damage.
Do you ever kite Ryze?
Do you ever buy a Botrk to counter health stacking?
Or boots to dodge skillshots?
Then why not just buy Tenacity?


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The7thSeal

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12-13-2013

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Esthlos:
Pretty much any skill you don't counter is deadly... anybody could buy Mercury Threads, even ADCs, without losing much.
Or just build a QSS and completely cancel the CC while also mitigating their magic damage.
Do you ever kite Ryze?
Do you ever buy a Botrk to counter health stacking?
Or boots to dodge skillshots?
Then why not just buy Tenacity?

Because there are only three Tenacity items in SR. Two are tankier items, one of those being a jungle item, and useless to laners. The only offensive on is ignored because there are items with more AD, more AS, and better MS boost.
And people don't build QSS. No idea why. Probably because it only builds into one item.


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