Champion rework

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Bress94

Junior Member

09-06-2013

Hello community,
I find many champion unbalanced, here are some possible changes:

ANIVIA
W 20cd to 18/17/16/15/14
W 70/90/110/130/150mana to 60
Reason: Cd and mana cost too high

DIANA
W 0.4ap to 0.3
Reason: Champion a little op

DR. MUNDO
W 35/50/65/70/95damage to 40/60/80/100/120
W 0.2ap to 0.3
R 15/25/35speed to 20/30/40
Reason: In addition to never die is not all that great

KHA'ZIX
W 0.9ad to 0.5
W 75/115/155/195/235damage to 80/120/160/200/240
Reason: Never seen a champion so op, is an assasin and has an area spell that deals a lot of damage

KARMA
Q 0.6ap to 0.7
W 0.6ap to 0.7
W 16/15.5/15/14.5/14cd to 15/14/13/12/11
E 0.5ap to 0.6
E 4sec to 5sec
In late game becomes useless

KENNEN
W 5hit to 4
W 0.55ap to 0.6
Reason: Just a little up

MISS FORTUNE
Q 70/75/80/85/90mana to 70
W 0.05ap to 0.1
R 0.2ap to 0.3
Reason: Mf ap would be nice

NOCTURNE
R 180/140/120cd to 140/120/100
Reason: 180sec too high cd

SHACO
W 16cd to 15
W 150life to 150/175/200/225/250
Reason: Shaco ap box requires stronger boxes

SION
Q 100mana to 80
R 50/75/100life steal to 40/50/60
R +50bonus attack range
W +20/25/30/35/40% crowd control
Reason: Sion op in 1v1 but bad in 5vs5

SIVIR
Base stat 500range to 525
W 450range to 525
W 1ad to 0.8
Reason: The only adc with a bad range

VLADIMIR
R 700range to 800
R 150/250/350damage to 200/300/400
R more large area
Ragione: Ulti is bad

UDYR
W basic attack restore 10mana
Reason: Resolves mana problem

TRINDA
Q 0.3ap to 0.5
E 1ap to 1.5
E 1.2ad to 1.1
Reason: Trinda ap would be nice

QUINN
Q 0.65ad to 0.8
E 0.2ad to 0.3
Ragione: Quinn does not do much in late

HEIMERDINGER
W 65/85/105/125/145mana to 60/70/80/90/100
E 80/90/100/110/120mana to 70/80/90/100/110
R +100range for q
Reason: Mana cost too high

ELISE
E click on target
E +70/110/150/190/230damage
E 0ap to 0.5ap
R +30/40/50 magic resist in spider form
Reason: Champion weak in life that has only 2 hit spells with little damage at distance

SEJUANI
Q 4/6/8/10/12Max health to damage ratio to 5/6/7/8/9/10
R 1.5/1.75/2stun to 1.5
Reason: Champion too strong in late game


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Chuncster

Member

09-06-2013

Haha are you mad? Buff Elise? O,o Elise is one of the most OP champions i've seen, the poking potential with her spider when building correctly is catastrophic!

Sejuani is op if played right and if the team gives her kills. It's that simple. So in other words she's a normal champion.

Quinn does ALOT late game if fed like other ADC's. She's as effective as any other ADC hence the name ADC :P Don't you think Riot would pay attential to a late-game potential of an ADC? I would hope so.

Some of these ideas are notable, others are downright silly as you need to think that most champions are only overpowered when used by good players, you play any champion wrong and they're useless.

Chunc.


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Bress94

Junior Member

09-06-2013

I don't think like you.

Sejuani was power before rework now is op: in teamfight she can stun all enemy team for 2sec!!
She is good tanky and deal big damage i think 2 sec of stun is too much.
I just want a little nerf of her ulti.

Quinn ok i'm not an expert of this champ xd but her ratio seems low.

But Elise OMG is not op.
In human form only 2hit spell, a stun not easy to land with no damage and spider form is a bit useless in teamfight she died too fast for attack so close.
Seriously she deal no damage, for q you need to be close and she die fast.
Also she has no real escape you can disappear with e but after they kill you however, yes you can stun monster and after use e in spider form but there aren't always monster near you.
She cannot attack always in distance so: or buff her long range spell or make her more resistant.
I'm ita sorry for this bad english xd.


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Neverworld

Senior Member

09-06-2013

As a Junior Member you are, you have no idea from anything.

If you read the difficulty bar from different Champions, you will see that some are easy to play and some are harder. Elise stun is a skillshot that can fail or hit successfully, it depends on your aim skill.



Please play some months and master those Champions, then you will know that they are balanced.


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Bress94

Junior Member

09-06-2013

I played lol for about 2 years.
I played all these champions A LOT.

Elise e need practise i know.
Then don't rework her e, but buff her spells she is up.
However excluding Elise there are many other champions that need a rework.
Hope Riot will do something starting from kha'zix..


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Winni Pu

Senior Member

09-06-2013

I don't share your opinion with some Champs, but yes Khazix and some others could use some nerf.


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Neverworld

Senior Member

09-06-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bress94 View Post
I played lol for about 2 years.
I played all these champions A LOT.

Elise e need practise i know.
Then don't rework her e, but buff her spells she is up.
However excluding Elise there are many other champions that need a rework.
Hope Riot will do something starting from kha'zix..
If you would play LoL for about 2 years, then you wouldnt be Junior Member.

However, Elise is a great Champion that has a different playstyle than other Champions have. And only because of her different skillsets, doesnt mean that she needs to be exactly nuking as any other.

Her W is crazy strong and when you have 20% spell vamp, W will give so much sustain and this from a very long range.

And I share not the same opinion about all others. Kha'Zix gets a nerf soon.


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Chuncster

Member

09-06-2013

All champions are perfectly balanced, each champion is great if played correctly, however each champion is beaten if opposed correctly! Nothing needs a nerf!

The fact that people want nerfs means you havent studied the champions strong and weak points enough to play against them effectively. Besides, if they becomes fed enough to be OP, then you or your team is doing it wrong!

Chunc.


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Bress94

Junior Member

09-06-2013

I known well all champions, there are a lot of champions and some of these need to be balanced!

I played mid Sion ap, Nasus ap, Master yi ap, Tristana ap, then I want Miss Fortune ap!!!


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Winni Pu

Senior Member

09-06-2013

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Originally Posted by Chuncster View Post
All champions are perfectly balanced, each champion is great if played correctly, however each champion is beaten if opposed correctly! Nothing needs a nerf!

The fact that people want nerfs means you havent studied the champions strong and weak points enough to play against them effectively. Besides, if they becomes fed enough to be OP, then you or your team is doing it wrong!

Chunc.
Thats just not true, there is no balance and there will never be ( not complaining, its a fact that also exists in real life).
It is a fact that some champs are simply stronger or easier to kill with than others.
Of course experience will help you to make the best of your UP champ and you can get feeded if you have a good team/opponents who are worse than you.

But what if both players are equally good and experienced?
The one with the not as strong champ may be able to hold his position, but the other one with the stronger champ will always have the advantage, even if its small, and i am not talking about counters.


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