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Rumors about EUNE & EUW migrating? Rincewind
3 Hours Ago 05:24 AM
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Its a troll.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
12 Hours Ago 07:54 PM
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@Ymir, i've been watching Nightblue3's stream on for the past hour or so while eating dinner, and every game has had extreme toxicity, and it's been this way everytime i've watched, and this is in high D1, just imagine how it is for the rest of us down in Silver/Gold. Just admit there's a massive problem on EUW that chat restrictions are not fixing and find a solution for it instead of saying "It sounds like mistakes", everyone has experienced so much of it that it's clearly not mistakes and none of us are going to believe it no matter how much you try to sell it lol.
I've been wracking my head considering this for the past hour. I've actually been very confused by this thread as it's specifically about people having a negative impact on games without chat and I've been coming at it from that perspective.

It seems that there is a much more general discussion going on between the lines which goes a lot deeper. This allows people to assume I'm saying there's no problem, when I'm actually just trying to provide context for examples the OP gave and showing that there's ways for us to pick up on when those examples are the work of someone trying to ruin a game and just mistakes.

What people really want is assurance and discussion about what else we're doing to improve the experience you have and that is something else entirely. Player Behaviour as a team in Riot exists because issues exist, I'm the last person you'll find denying that there are significant issues online in how we treat one another.

I'll open up a wider discussion to give you guys more insight.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
13 Hours Ago 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DrussIV View Post
Never.

Now I know you aren't naive, you are incredibly arrogant and just don't want to admit you are wrong about anything ever.
I'm actually confused how you came to this and really want you to help me understand it.

There are patterns, someone who consistently ruins games has many many tells and in the majority of cases there's text because antagonizing someone has a lot of facets. That's one pattern that lets people like this get picked up.

The OP says in some instances that the person was saying GJ and after letting him die on top lane said something to annoy him. Those are patterns, if someone did that once then maybe there was a miscommunication, if someone does it consistently it's likely on purpose and easy to differentiate and take action against.


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13 Hours Ago 07:07 PM
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Sure we can do a game sometime. Do add and we figure this out.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
13 Hours Ago 06:53 PM
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So if someone purposely steals the buff from someone, just because he does not like him, is a bad decision as well? I had enough games, where the jungler or any player in the team, just stole the buff, because he did not like the player for some reason.

This is no bad decision making, but the result of childish behaviour that should be punished just as well as flaming etc. as the OP descirbes it in his post.
There are patterns that can find these people, there's been a trend in the thread to tip toward error as being purposefully trying to ruin a game. This then spirals out to actually create really negative situations.

There are people out there who might seek to ruin games, but they are subject to patterns and we pick them up. I've never said that it doesn't happen, just that not all instances of it are negative and that some of the examples posted are very subjective.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
14 Hours Ago 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Poro View Post
Ymir, how can you say that those examples are more likely to be accidentally? If someone steals a blue buff on Lee Sin from a mid laner and types "" then, no, it's NOT an accident. If it were an accident, then he'd type "oops" or "sorry". "" means that he's glad that he got it. It's like blocking the ADC's escape with anivia wall and then writing "you're welcome". It counts as assisting enemy team because you intended to do something that you know is bad for your team.

The point is that you only look at chat log to determine toxicity, but there's actually a report option "assisting enemy team" that you can't see through chat. Even some verbal abuse, namely SARCASM, usually can't be detected through chatlogs alone. "gj team" sounds like a positive comment right?? Not if your team just all died in a 4v5. "np" after you let a teammate intentionally die is not honorable. Yet, in the chatlogs, things like that do seem like positive attitude and it happens way more often than you think.

I do understand though that it's not worth the effect to record all matches and use video footage along with chatlogs to review cases, but that's the exact reason why so many people do it this way (Being sarcastic rather than obviously flaming).
I don't think it's really an arguement, most people playing want to win and it's very easy to misconstrue a bad decision as one which was done with intent.

Some of the examples the OP raises could very well be negative, but sometimes a mistake is just that a mistake and in quite a few of those examples it reads toward that without any more context. If someone does something consistently then you can find a pattern and take action, it's pretty easy to read when someone is doing it on purpose.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
15 Hours Ago 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Masha M View Post
So according to you, LCS is even remotely comparable to SoloQ, and most of all these people just made mistakes. Guess I'll just steal every buff from the jungler, type "gg" when someone dies or just farm whole creepwaves as a jungler because it's definetely a mistake. Woops, my hand slipped and I accidentally smited the cannon minion + last hit every other creep.
I was making the point that even someone who is at the very highest level of skill can still make mistakes. Not just mechanical ones, judgement calls with a team they've trained with extensively.

People will make mistakes and it's pretty reasonable to suggest that in many of those cases it isn't an intent to lose or fail driving their actions.


Abuse on this game is NOT OKAY. Ymir
16 Hours Ago 04:46 PM
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Also the Red Tracker is messed up in this thread because Rincewind deleted a post he put here by mistake. When you do that it makes it so you can't just clickthrough.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
16 Hours Ago 04:21 PM
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From the NA forum



Can we have the same test here in a near futur? ^^
I mentioned yesterday that there's a few things we need to get past for Europe in order to do this, (Lyte had more help than he lets on ) but looking at and understanding the majority is to me more important than the minority as it forms a real base of information people can draw from beyond the standard discussion.

I'm actually going to be talking about this in a meeting to see what we could potentially do. It may not take the same form, but it's definitely valuable for everyone.


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
16 Hours Ago 04:14 PM
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Big shock riot defending their idiotic policy of viewing only flame as toxic behavior.
why even bother typing this text we all know your point of view.
But i gues its official now, troll all you want, make other players as misarable as possible,
just dont flame cause that is according to riot the only form of toxicety and the only one you can get punished 4.
As I said there's an important distinction between an action done to annoy you which we will focus on and actions that annoy you which are incredibly subjective.


Abuse on this game is NOT OKAY. Ymir
16 Hours Ago 04:10 PM
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How stupid are you to actually tell them you're gay? You are literally asking for hatred - And then you go whine about it? Lmao
Asking for empathy isn't stupid, it's an action made in the hope the people on the opposite side would think about what they were saying. It's naive to think that someone looking to get a reaction would do so, but that isn't on the player who asked them to stop because the abuse was personal.

It's on the people who decided to hurl abuse and anyone finding excuses for their behaviour are being purposefully obtuse.

Raising a hand to say that what someone is saying is personal to you doesn't suddenly put that person in the firing line. That's a lie that the dumber parts of the internet likes to tell. It has very simple logic and it's why so many people will use that line of reasoning, but that's because it doesn't affect you and the words to you aren't a threat of violence for who you are. There is nothing wrong with someone appealing to a sense of decency.

If that decency isn't there then it doesn't make a person wrong for expecting it.

For the OP, we found that homophobic abuse and slurs were overwhelmingly punished by the Tribunal, which is to say that the vast majority of our players find it distasteful and those using it undesirable to play with.

It isn't welcome in our game and it never will be. You have our promise on that.

I often say that moving on and reporting is the best thing to do rather than engaging, but I honestly find no fault on AceronXL's part here, at least from the original text which is what people are using to make judgements.


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16 Hours Ago 04:10 PM
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That was a fun game. Riot Boompje had to hang his head in shame after a soul crushing defeat!


Need help deciding which champ to buy. Riot TebsG
16 Hours Ago 04:01 PM
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Can't argue with 9th Prime's list, all are solid picks.

Personally i'd pick up Yasuo or Diana in this scenario: both can play mid or top and both are super fun when you start picking up a few kills (disclaimer: probably not much fun for the opposing team however).

Don't forget there are a lot of champs which are also very good pick ups for less than 6300 IP. Diana might be the better pick of those two though since you seem a little short on AP champs at the moment!


@Riot Lyte about the "only 0.9% community is toxic" Ymir
17 Hours Ago 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragnaröck View Post
Only 0.9% of the community are deemed toxic while there are a lot more active trolls/*******s/whatever who are not detectable through the chatlog.
I read through the examples in the OP and in honesty most of them sound like easily made mistakes. An expectation of perfection is something I see a lot of and people aren't perfect. Watching the LCS you can see decisions made that with hindsight were mistakes that lost games, sometimes people will pick up your blue or have a bad feeling about a teamfight they don't have time to express.

The nature of a team game means we all have differing view on the current situation. In a lot of cases the perception of trolling is more prevalent than someone intentionally trolling. We've all made calls that afterwards we shake our heads at.

If you're viewing that as being indicative of someone trying to annoy you then you'll see innocent mistakes as hostile actions. We're a team dedicated to improving the experience on all fronts, I'm not disputing that people will do things to annoy you. There is a difference between to annoy and that annoy though and it's very important there's a line between the two.

One is intentional, the other isn't.

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Do you feel offended when the stranger tells you that you're a faget and your cancer-ridden mother should be eaten by dogs?
Of course we do. It's pretty disgusting to say something like that in any context. It's not exactly a common thing though in game or out and it's why people who do are punished for it. If you use language that attacks another player then it's not helpful and if you can't help yourself you're not welcome.

Forum discussion is typically about events that are not standard, in the larger discussions especially. It's why reading threads you'll hear about the extremes and attempts to prove the extremes and why people here find things hard to believe.

Part of making things better is accepting there are issues, another key part is keeping some perspective.


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17 Hours Ago 03:34 PM
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Are you in mood for some pain? If you are then you should join my game on HA. (Rincewind's supports) It is a game of supports.

Items you can buy.

1) Tear of goddess
2) Giants belt.

The champions you can pick.

Braum
Janna
Lulu
Nami
Nunu
Sona
Soraka
Taric
Thresh
Zilean

Gonna win that game easypeasy


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17 Hours Ago 03:32 PM
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Are you in mood for some pain? If you are then you should join my game on HA. (Rincewind's supports) It is a game of supports.

Items you can buy.

1) Tear of goddess
2) Giants belt.

The champions you can pick.

Braum
Janna
Lulu
Nami
Nunu
Sona
Soraka
Taric
Thresh
Zilean


6300 support Riot Draggles
17 Hours Ago 02:53 PM
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I'm on it! although personally I find the added HTML quite charming.
Sorry to ruin the fun, but your title is now fixed! I'm kinda disappointed you don't have a Brand avatar...


Lack of Support players?! Riot Draggles
18 Hours Ago 02:39 PM
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Support main here, agreed with everything that Gazpoole said above. Very rewarding to be able to say that you saved your lane partner's life, and landing the 3-man Solar Flare or Glacial Fissure that wins the game. I'm also maining Alistar right now in the support role. Since I found out how to do the Headbutt - Pulverise combo I'm feeling pretty unstoppable against any bot lane.

(The hint I wished I would have been given long ago is as your W is going off, you can hold Q as soon as you start the animation and it will "queue" the move for the end, providing your W isn't max range. I was trying to time it perfectly like this legendary highlight reel from HotshotGG.)


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19 Hours Ago 01:01 PM
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I'm on it! although personally I find the added HTML quite charming.


6300 support Riot TebsG
19 Hours Ago 12:58 PM
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I play a ton of Braum and Thresh so I would recommend either of those. A very good Thresh can be extremely annoying to play against in Solo queue (them hooks!). If it has to be Zyra or Braum then I'd go for Braum, you get to jump into the middle of every fight and frankly the guy is so positive about everything, it's nice to just hear him talk.


Cant login ! Rincewind
1 Day Ago 09:49 PM
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Could you please share more information such as what error message you get and who your isp is?


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1 Day Ago 07:56 PM
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Sigh! I am having a loosing streak in custom games. I am going to go cry now.


this toxic community... Ymir
1 Day Ago 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Squaggle View Post
every game you are playing you are probably matched with 3-4 people who are on chat restrictions.

People tend to wildly overestimate the amount of restrictions that are out there relative to people playing without.

There's also a tendency for discussion here on the boards to trend negative as edge cases are naturally the most talked about. When you have these together it's easy to build an impression that is different to the day to day experiences of most players.

This thread should give you guys some context on this. I would love to do something similar for Europe, but there's more effort required to roll it out so we need look at the details.

Most people are just chill, we notice people being jerks more because it's the exception rather than the rule.


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1 Day Ago 07:16 PM
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are you doing more than 1 game today?
Probably not. I have back to back meetings and changes to do. Sorry.


My. Work. Is. Done. Riot Draggles
1 Day Ago 07:13 PM
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Cow OP.


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1 Day Ago 07:03 PM
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Please join me for a couple of games on HA. We shall do a game with draft mode!

Edit: Rincewind's I DRAFT U is the lobby


Worlds 2014 Teams Riot Draggles
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Oh, and TPA. Taipei Assassins won the GPL Summer tournament.


Worlds 2014 Teams Riot Draggles
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I don't think KT Arrows are officially qualified yet as OGN works on a points system. This Reddit comment summed it up nicely.

As for the rest, it's Alliance, Fnatic and SK from Europe for their playoff spots, Samsung Blue for being far and away ahead in circuit points in OGN, and Dark Passage from Turkey for destroying the International Wildcard tournament at gamescom.


Toxic behavior in-game? screenshot it and post it here! Ymir
1 Day Ago 03:57 PM
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^ hey everyone i was just wondering if the community would be willing to help me out!

I'm currently writing my masters dissertation on conflict and conflict resolution in league and was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping me compile screenshots of toxic behavior in league.

This is not naming and shaming by any means, all screen shots provided with have the names removed from to actually protect the identities of all the players. Ps: u can remove the names prior to posting if you please.


I have around 50 screen shots myself of in-game behavior and I'm looking to compare it to what the rest of you experience.

also if anyone would like to discuss the type of behavior in the screenshots, WITHOUT stooping to the level of the offender then by all means discuss away!
I actually believe that using the boards would be a rough way to go on this, there are a lot of sites out there showing Tribunal cases and they would likely form a better well of information for you to draw from if you're looking for examples to use.

Really important to note that highlights like this are never indicative of how most players experience League. The purpose is to find deviations from acceptable behaviour so what you end up with is just that.

Lyte created a thread yesterday that really highlights this, you might find it an interesting read.


ghost game again Riot tmx
1 Day Ago 03:55 PM
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What happened? Were you disconnected from the ongoing game or never actually started one?


My. Work. Is. Done. Riot tmx
1 Day Ago 03:53 PM
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Great stuff, KilllaZ. Good luck in your next 3 (6, 9, etc) years in LoL!!


My. Work. Is. Done. Riot Draggles
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Added!


Couple of Aram Games Rincewind
2 Days Ago 08:28 PM
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Few awesome wrenchmen and I are playing few aram games and you are welcome to join Rincewind's game.


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1 more! Please join Rincewind's no rules


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3 Days Ago 11:41 PM
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How about we do a game of tanks with no items, just your runes and masteries? Please join Rincewind's tanks. NO ITEMS is the password. Here are the list of champs you can choose.

Alistar
Amumu
Blitzcrank
ChoGath
Galio
Jarvin
Leona
Malphite
Maokai
Nautilus
Rammus
Sejuani
Shen
Singed
Zac


Riot can you do me a favor? Rincewind
3 Days Ago 11:26 PM
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https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...s_requests/new that's where you submit a ticket .


Banned by Riot Support for asking for a refund on a name change Rincewind
3 Days Ago 11:04 PM
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After having a chat with a colleague in player support, it appears you already have a conversation going on with them via multiple tickets. I would recommend to continue the conversation there. It is certainly a misinformed opinion to hold the idea that you were banned for the reason you stated.

I certainly cannot and will not discuss your account details or your tickets here. Rioters in player support department are best equipped to help you.


people who cant play meta in silver/gold Riot Shalkar
3 Days Ago 04:58 PM
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I've had decent success with Zyra Support!
Good CC, and very respectable damage for a support, plus the ult that can have great impact on a teamfight . Bonus points: her ult enables Yasuo's Last Breath
Main downside is she's so squishy, but that can be slightly mitigated by hanging back and hugging your ADC
Just my 2 cents. Give it a try!


Game crash patch 4.14 Rincewind
3 Days Ago 03:08 PM
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https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...d-Game-Crashes will help you get started on trying to figure out why the game is crashing. If that doesn't help, please share your r3dlogs of a game that crashed.


Banned by Riot Support for asking for a refund on a name change Rincewind
3 Days Ago 03:03 PM
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@Be Greezy Can you please share a screenshot of the message you get when you login into the client?


@Riot Can I get a job Rincewind
4 Days Ago 06:50 AM
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Anyone from Riot Avaliable for a Game in my BirthDay :3? Rincewind
4 Days Ago 06:01 AM
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@iAndrewGG Sure we can do a game together on your birthday. When is it though?


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4 Days Ago 11:54 PM
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Playing a draft mode game on HA map, do join Rincewind's not-aram game.


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4 Days Ago 11:17 PM
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@IS13678cadfd4725 Sure I can play another game in few mins. I am wrapping up few things. There is no chatroom. I intend to post on this thread whenever I organize a game. I shall invite you to the next one.


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4 Days Ago 09:21 PM
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In a mood for couple of ARAMS? Lets play some, please join Rincewind's ARAM. MARA is the password!


gamescom 2014 Portal Riot Draggles
5 Days Ago 06:51 PM
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Attachment 211371

Hey everyone,

We just launched our portal for all things gamescom 2014, and it's right here: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/gamescom

Are you at the show? Just came back to rest up for tomorrow's action? Can't be in Cologne but want to know just what's going on with the COLOSSAL BARON STATUE in the centre of the booth? There's lots of stuff here to watch and look through, including cosplay galleries, esports previews, and your pictures from the show floor (as long as you use the hashtag #lolgamescom).

That's all from me! Did anyone happen to catch the Supa Hot Crew - Millenium game earlier today? I won't spoilerino if you haven't seen it, but what a series.


Shop 502 Bad Gateway Rincewind
5 Days Ago 06:14 PM
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It was transient issue. We are digging into the root cause. I would recommend you reach out to player support at https://support.leagueoflegends.com/home if you still haven't received your RP after logging out and logging in.


Shop 502 Bad Gateway Riot tmx
5 Days Ago 05:46 PM
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Yeah, we're working on it right now.


Game keeps crashing please help Rincewind
5 Days Ago 05:00 PM
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https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...d-Game-Crashes should help you get started.


Patch stuck at 33% Rincewind
6 Days Ago 03:24 AM
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it is possible that your local installation is either corrupt or your patching process was interrupted as in the patcher had issues reaching out for the files. It would be great if you can share the logs.

From: https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...gends-Logs#wq6

What are the Launcher and Kernel Logs?
The patcher is responsible for keeping your installation of League of Legends up to date with the newest champion, skins and features. Problems that require patcher logs occur when you first boot up the game and before you hit the "Play" button. There are two log files that we will need:

rads_user_kernel.log
You can find them here:
C:\Riot Games\League of Legends\RADS

[yyyy-mm-ddT15-40-03]_launcher.log
NOTE: yyyy-mm-dd is the day of the patch

And here:

C:\Riot Games\League of Legends\Logs\Patcher Logs


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